Posts by south african beef

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I'm back..JW's at my door left stunned and in tears

by toladest in

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well, i'm back after a couple years away from this site.

i still recognize a lot of names here, but there are a lot of new ones too.

i wanted to share an expierience i had with two witness "sisters" at my door a couple weeks ago.

south african beef

Hi Toladest.

A very heart wrenching story, well told. My thoughts go out to you.

When you mentioned that your mother would never question the religion despite all the evidence, I just want you to know that I have a mum and dad who are just like that too.

Whatever faults and lies that could be proved against the WTBS they would rationalize and believe it is all from satan and that the end must indeed be close now.

This is the same mum and dad who in 1972 said when taking me to my new school that 'this will be your school 'til amargeddon'. I didn't try hard at school thinking what's the pont as the end is coming soon . . . how I wished now that I had applied myself fully.

Regards

SAB

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I have a talk!

by Zico in

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friends

about 7 months ago i asked the school overseer to take me off the school, as i was 'busy with work exams' things have been good since then (well, sort of...) no talks for 7 months!

but then, my wonderful father, decides to ask the school overseer to put me back on!

he puts me back on!

south african beef

I feel sorry for you having this sprung on you!

Your father obviously has your (his) interests at heart but you've gotta do what you've gotta do.

I would try and get out of it or make it slightly sarcstic without being obvious.

Good luck!

SAB

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Maybe it will upset them, maybe they will just discard...

by Crumpet in

it is my parents wedding anniversary saturday and every year since i left i have always sent them a card.

i wondered whether i should or not this year.

on balance i wasn't sure what would upset them more - waiting for a card that never came, or receiving a card at all, especially since i said in december that i wouldn't "bother" them anymore.. anyway it felt right to send a card so i did and i decided to put a little note inside, folded and bearing the message: "my news, but don't read it if you aren't interested".

south african beef

Your reply was spot on,Crumpet.

I hate the fact that my parents are 'old school' too. To give you an idea of how old school - my mum would rather go to prison than sit on a jury. I knew this when I was still 'in'. I said to her it's a conscience matter and as we don't have the death penalty you could never be bloodguilty. She said that we must not judge our fellow man and that she would be prepared to suffer the consequences - sad eh?

Your comments that you may not see your parents again and that they may die soon is exactly how I feel. That's why I've been in turmoil - should I be in contact with them or should I leave them alone, with them always wondering, hoping that they will see me at the meetings again? I think they know that I will never go back. The saddest thing is that they think that any hurt is being done by my actions and not by their slavishly following the ridiculous shunning policies.

Regards

SAB

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Maybe it will upset them, maybe they will just discard...

by Crumpet in

it is my parents wedding anniversary saturday and every year since i left i have always sent them a card.

i wondered whether i should or not this year.

on balance i wasn't sure what would upset them more - waiting for a card that never came, or receiving a card at all, especially since i said in december that i wouldn't "bother" them anymore.. anyway it felt right to send a card so i did and i decided to put a little note inside, folded and bearing the message: "my news, but don't read it if you aren't interested".

south african beef

Hi Crumpet,

I thought your letter to your parents was superb, letting them know that you are ok and getting on with your life despite their shunning you.

I have not been in verbal contact with my parents for 5 years, since my d'fing. There have been a couple of letters but just to let them know that I moved address and also to inform them that I got married ( the reply to that was a rather terse 'we are glad that you have legalised your union').

My wifes parents do contact her reasonably frequently, to a limited degree and she has been round to their house on a number of occassions - this also is something I hate about the witnesses, that members can interpret rules in different ways and nothing gets said. My parents are of the old school and do everthing to the letter.

I have been in turmoil over the last few months wondering whether to bother and write a letter to my parents - you may have helped me but i still wonder whether it will do any good for me or them.

Kind regards

SAB

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"This could be the last Memorial before Armageddon"

by south african beef in

has anyone said that to you this year?.

in 1975 i distinctly remember it being said in our congregation with an air of near certainty - i was 13.. now, over 30 years later for just the 3rd time in my life i'm not going and next year will make it the 4th.. that's unless this really is the last one this time!.

south african beef

I'll have a can of what your drinking - must have life giving properties if you are gonna be around in 200 years!

Cheers!

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"This could be the last Memorial before Armageddon"

by south african beef in

has anyone said that to you this year?.

in 1975 i distinctly remember it being said in our congregation with an air of near certainty - i was 13.. now, over 30 years later for just the 3rd time in my life i'm not going and next year will make it the 4th.. that's unless this really is the last one this time!.

south african beef

Well done Lt.Cmd - let's hope this is your last one!

Anyway I hope it wasn't the last one or I'm a gonner!

Seriously, they just turn out the same old tripe every year. I was speaking to a Jewish colleague of mine and he was telling me how they have a big family meal while the head of the family recounts the time the of the passover and of the Israelites leaving Egypt. It all sounded quite nice and it brings the family unit together.

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I went to the Memorial.

by RichieRich in

jw
friends

i'm just going to start at the beginning.. i was anticipating the memorial all day.

i was nervous but excited, kind of like standing in line for a roller coaster.. ok. so erika gets ready at her house, and i get ready at mine.

i'm wearing a black suit with a light green shirt, and a tie that had hues of green and yellow in it.

south african beef

A fantastic post Richie.

You described everything so vividly that I along with everyone else reading it I suspect, were there with you, feeling every emotion with you.

I didn't go last night and I have wondered whether it's better to stay away knowing my mum will be upset, or go and give her false hope.

You did brilliantly.

SAB

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"This could be the last Memorial before Armageddon"

by south african beef in

has anyone said that to you this year?.

in 1975 i distinctly remember it being said in our congregation with an air of near certainty - i was 13.. now, over 30 years later for just the 3rd time in my life i'm not going and next year will make it the 4th.. that's unless this really is the last one this time!.

south african beef

Have you been drinking some of that wine Stilla?

Just checking as a couple of your spellings were a bit iffy!

SAB

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"This could be the last Memorial before Armageddon"

by south african beef in

has anyone said that to you this year?.

in 1975 i distinctly remember it being said in our congregation with an air of near certainty - i was 13.. now, over 30 years later for just the 3rd time in my life i'm not going and next year will make it the 4th.. that's unless this really is the last one this time!.

south african beef

Bit of a slow response to this thread I feel - maybe you are all at the memorial!

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"This could be the last Memorial before Armageddon"

by south african beef in

has anyone said that to you this year?.

in 1975 i distinctly remember it being said in our congregation with an air of near certainty - i was 13.. now, over 30 years later for just the 3rd time in my life i'm not going and next year will make it the 4th.. that's unless this really is the last one this time!.

south african beef

Has anyone said that to you this year?

In 1975 I distinctly remember it being said in our congregation with an air of near certainty - I was 13.

Now, over 30 years later for just the 3rd time in my life I'm not going and next year will make it the 4th.

That's unless this really is the last one this time!